BIRDv2 OSPF: Stub for loopback potentially broken: Invalid Prefix in LSA

Joakim Tjernlund Joakim.Tjernlund at infinera.com
Thu Apr 25 16:13:55 CEST 2019


On Wed, 2019-04-24 at 16:16 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-04-24 at 15:47 +0200, Ondrej Zajicek wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 01:10:31PM +0000, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2019-04-23 at 21:03 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2019-04-23 at 19:33 +0200, Ondrej Zajicek wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 12:40:04PM +0000, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > > > > I think the standard just does not consider the case of 'unnumbered'
> > > > > > > link with both local and remote address but without subnet and assumes
> > > > > > > 'real' unnumbered PtP link with no local IP address associated with
> > > > > > > the iface.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There is always some local address, in linux you have to assign it to the I/F,
> > > > > > but in others, like Cisco, you can assign an IP address to a dummy I/F and then
> > > > > > tell unnumbered I/Fs to use the dummy I/Fs' IP address.
> > > > > > There has to be some SRC IP address on pkgs sent by OSPF
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, but the way how the RFC is written it (IMHO) assumes the second case -
> > > > > unnumbered ifaces using SRC IP from some dummy iface. Therefore stub
> > > > 
> > > > yes, the second case, agreed.
> > > > 
> > > > > node is associated with the dummy iface and not with the unnumbered PtP iface.
> > > > 
> > > > No, this is a true unnumbered I/F(it has no local IP address) and will not generate
> > > > any stub route.
> > > > 
> > > > > > Since Linux always has an local IP adress it is not possible to deduce if the
> > > > > > user intended the link to be unnumbered or not, unless one wants to add explicit
> > > > > > config "unnumbered", it would be best to assume unnumbered I think.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I do not understand what you mean in this article. Linux could have active iface
> > > > > without any IP address and it can be used for PtP link (with SRC IP from some
> > > > > other iface), but it is not implemented in BIRD.
> > > > 
> > > > I expressed myself badly, I meant if one want to have control over what SRC ip is used,
> > > > you need to have it on the local I/F. Maybe there is a way to do that these days differently
> > > > but I don't think any PtoP impl. on Linux uses that.
> > > > 
> > > > > It is true that even a link with local /32 IP without specified remote peer could
> > > > > be used for OSPF PtP link. BIRD in this case assumes it is a stub /32 and i am not
> > > > > sure whether it could be configured as regular PtP. I did not realized before that
> > > > > this is a relevant case for PtP link.
> > > > 
> > > > This case is as close one gets to a true unnumbered I/F in Linux I think and pppd supports
> > > > such links. I think should treat /32 links as unnumbered even if there is an remote
> > > > IP address or make it configurable.
> > > > 
> > > > > > Consider the use case with many /32 ptp links, all with the same local IP, there would
> > > > > > be a lot of redundant host routes in the Router LSA. Better to let the user
> > > > > > add an explicit stub network for all PtoP's if one needs it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, that is solvable by not putting the same stub multiple times in the
> > > > > Router LSA.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe but since it is the remote ip one puts here you will only save "space" when
> > > > you have multiple ptop links between the same two routers.
> > > > 
> > > > > More debatable is a case like this:
> > > > > 
> > > > > eth0 10.0.0.1/24
> > > > > eth1 10.0.0.1/32 peer 10.0.1.1/32
> > > > > 
> > > > > 10.0.0.1 is already reachable by route for eth0 (either stub or network),
> > > > > so it is technically not necessary to have it in the Router LSA as
> > > > > a separate /32 stub. So it makes sense to me to have it configurable
> > > > > with three values: yes, no, if-not-covered.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, this is what I was getting at too. Maybe have a conf option "unnumbered" to treat
> > > > eth1 as a "true" unnumbred I/F(no stub network).
> > > > Quietion is, what should be default?
> > > > What is default in current 2.0 Bird?
> > > > 
> > > >  Jocke
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I have a hard time understanding the code for section 12.4.1.1 Option 1 and Option 2:
> > > 
> > >     /* Now we will originate stub area if there is no primary */
> > >     if (net_lsa ||
> > >       (ifa->type == OSPF_IT_VLINK) ||
> > >       ((ifa->addr->flags & IA_PEER) && ! ifa->cf->stub) ||
> > >       configured_stubnet(oa, ifa->addr))
> > >       continue;
> > > Is the above always true for a ptp I/F? I am not clear over how IA_HOST, IA_PEER and ifa->cf->stub works.
> > 
> > IA_HOST means /32, no peer address
> > IA_PEER means /32, and peer address
> > 
> > ifa->cf->stub means explicitly configured stub/pasive mode.
> 
> OK, thanks.

Just to be clear, I suspect you don't do Option 2 either for non /32 PtP links?
The ifa->addr->flags & IA_PEER is true for all PtP links, right ?

Weather to do Option 1 could be a config option if you want to complete, I don't need it though.

 Jocke
> 
> > 
> > > Also, important to agree if a /32 mask constitutes a subnet or not?
> > 
> > /32 does not consistute subnet because it does not cover both local and remote addresses.
> 
> My view too. :)
> 
> > 
> > > That would explain the below, there is no Option 1
> > 
> > Yes, we do not announce neighboring router's IP (Option 1)
> >  
> OK, you are effectively considering your ptp I/F and the other side to be unnumbered always?
> I think that works for us ATM, just requires adding a lo0 host route to OSPF  
> 
> > (unless it is passive interface).
> 
> Option 1 is about adding the peer IP address so a passive ptp I/F isn't strictly
> doing Option 1 but a route to itself.
> 
> > >       /* Host or network stub entry */
> > >     if ((ifa->addr->flags & IA_HOST) ||
> > >       (ifa->state == OSPF_IS_LOOP) ||
> > >       (ifa->type == OSPF_IT_PTMP))
> > >       add_rt2_lsa_link(p, LSART_STUB, ipa_to_u32(ifa->addr->ip), 0xffffffff, 0);
> > >     else
> > >       add_rt2_lsa_link(p, LSART_STUB, ip4_to_u32(net4_prefix(&ifa->addr->prefix)),
> > >                      u32_mkmask(net4_pxlen(&ifa->addr->prefix)), ifa->cost);
> > 



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