<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">RIPNG/RIPv2 could carry a handful (or two :-) for your purposes. <div><br></div><div>Clemens<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">--<div>Von einem Mobiltelefon gesendet. Bitte die Kürze entschuldigen.<br><div>Sent from a mobile phone. Please excuse brevity. </div></div></div><div><br>Am 14.10.2017 um 19:27 schrieb Magnus Löfqvist <<a href="mailto:ml@vmi.se">ml@vmi.se</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>Hi again,<br>
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Just a throught, we dont need our endpoints to know about each other, in fact, we do firewalling not to allow traffic between them.<br>
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Are there any better solutions, instead of ospf, where we can have more than 100 endpoints getting there routes from a central server, and where we dont need to specify evry neigboor at the system?<br>
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/ Magnus<br>
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<b>Sänt:</b> 13 okt. 2017 23:31<br>
<b>Till:</b> Ondrej Zajicek<br>
<b>Kopia:</b> <a href="mailto:bird-users@network.cz">bird-users@network.cz</a> <br>
<b>Ämne:</b> Re: Limit on how many neighbors<br>
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<div>Hi,<br>
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I agree with you, it should not be the case here.<br>
But, we are running over mobile networks, and the openvpn adds some overhead.<br>
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Running some tcpdump shows that the packet lenght of the hello packet is just about 480, and that should be ok.<br>
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If we change to another openvpn instance/interface and change over to that it works directly.<br>
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I have also updated bird on our mainrouter to 1.6.3 (latest), but the issue still exist.
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I have attached our config files (bird.conf (mainrouter), bird_client.conf (from one of the end router)).
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My OSPF knowlege are limited, so I guess that I have made some errors :)<br>
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The main feature we need is to distribute some external routes (10.3.50.0/24, 10.3.60.0/24), and distribute back the endpoints IP networks (10.98.x.x/30)<br>
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/ Magnus<br>
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<div style="border:none; padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><b>Från:</b> Ondrej Zajicek <<a href="mailto:santiago@crfreenet.org">santiago@crfreenet.org</a>><br>
<b>Sänt:</b> 13 okt. 2017 13:13<br>
<b>Till:</b> Magnus Löfqvist<br>
<b>Kopia:</b> <a href="mailto:bird-users@network.cz">bird-users@network.cz</a> <br>
<b>Ämne:</b> Re: Limit on how many neighbors<br>
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<div class="PlainText">On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:43:03AM +0000, Magnus Löfqvist wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
> <br>
> We are running Bird with OSPF between embedded routers (openwrt) (mobile routers).<br>
> The routers are connected to our main server with openvpn, and we are using bird ontop on openvpn to deliver routes to the end routers.<br>
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> This have worked quite well, but today we notice some glitches.<br>
> We had some routers that did not finish election (ie, stand in init instead of being full).<br>
> When we count, there are exactly 100 devices that are in "full", and 3 in init.<br>
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> Are there any limit on how many neighbors/routers?<br>
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Hi<br>
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There is AFAIK no hard limit, but there is an issue that if you have too<br>
many neighbors, you end with Router-LSA that does not fit into MTU and<br>
will be sent using fragmented IP packets. Which usually works, but may be<br>
problematic. But that is probably not relevant, as if there were such<br>
problem, they would stuck in later stage of exchange and not in 'init'.<br>
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So i have no idea why they stuck in 'init'. Isn't there any<br>
misconfiguration? Is there anything in logs? Did they corrected after<br>
restart?<br>
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Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo<br>
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Ondrej 'Santiago' Zajicek (email: <a href="mailto:santiago@crfreenet.org">santiago@crfreenet.org</a>)<br>
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