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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082">Here you have same route exported via Juniper border, local ASN 20940 is prepended by default:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082"><a href="mailto:rochalsk@r01.border01.lon03.fab">rochalsk@r01.border01.lon03.fab</a>> show route advertising-protocol bgp 2a02:26f0:1880:202::1 20.135.0.0/16<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082">Warning: License key missing; requires 'bgp' license<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082">inet.0: 955317 destinations, 2138917 routes (950415 active, 218793 holddown, 14419 hidden)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082"> Prefix Nexthop MED Lclpref AS path<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082">* 20.135.0.0/16 Self 20940 8075 I<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082">vs bird:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082">Executing "/usr/sbin/birdc show route export '2a02:26f0:1780:1b::218__r03.sdn__RIB_FORWARDING' for 20.135.0.0/16 all"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082">20.135.0.0/16 unicast [23.210.49.58__r23.lon02.ien 2024-10-09] (100) [AS8075i]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082"> Type: BGP univ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082"> BGP.origin: IGP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082"> BGP.as_path: 8075<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082"> BGP.next_hop: 23.210.49.58<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082"> BGP.med: 4294967294<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082"> BGP.local_pref: 350<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082"> BGP.community: (20940,70) (20940,90) (20940,30102) (65501,8075) (20940,550)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#156082"> BGP.large_community: (4200000000, 0, 20679)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 9, 2024 at 6:01 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Ochalski, Radoslaw" <rochalsk@akamai.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Ondrej Zajicek <santiago@crfreenet.org>, Bird-users <bird-users@network.cz><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: BIRD is not prepending ASN on EBGP export.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Most vendors do not allow multiple local AS numbers, I think. The fact you receive the route over iBGP tells nothing about its origin, because external routes are
passed over iBGP as well. Could you imagine a straightforward universal algorithm<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Most vendors do not allow multiple local AS numbers, I think. The fact you receive the route over iBGP tells nothing about its origin, because external routes are passed over iBGP as well. Could you imagine a straightforward universal algorithm
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 4:13<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Ochalski, Radoslaw <<a href="mailto:rochalsk@akamai.com">rochalsk@akamai.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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will automatically prepend IBGP ASN. Otherwise, we are missing one ASN in ASPATH and attracting more traffic.<br>
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Yes, I am aware we can prepend it, though it seems strange this is not default behavior.
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 9, 2024 at 3:30 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Ochalski, Radoslaw" <<a href="mailto:rochalsk@akamai.com" target="_blank">rochalsk@akamai.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Ondrej Zajicek <<a href="mailto:santiago@crfreenet.org" target="_blank">santiago@crfreenet.org</a>>, Bird-users <<a href="mailto:bird-users@network.cz" target="_blank">bird-users@network.cz</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: BIRD is not prepending ASN on EBGP export.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In your case, how should BIRD know in what ASN the routes are originating? The AS number appears when you do export via eBGP session. And it uses local ASN for that. If you need
your routes to pretend to be originated in AS20940, you need to prepend AS20940 in some filter to your routes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 11:09<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM Ochalski, Radoslaw <<a href="mailto:rochalsk@akamai.com" target="_blank">rochalsk@akamai.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks Ondrej,<br>
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So for the routes originating in AS20940, downstream will not be aware of AS20940 in the as-path it will only know private AS4290006033.<br>
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Kind Regards, <br>
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Radek <br>
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On 10/8/24, 5:18 PM, "Ondrej Zajicek" <<a href="mailto:santiago@crfreenet.org" target="_blank">santiago@crfreenet.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:santiago@crfreenet.org" target="_blank">santiago@crfreenet.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
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On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 04:46:07PM +0200, Alexander Zubkov via Bird-users wrote:<br>
> Hi Radoslaw,<br>
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> Do I get it right, that you have 2 bgp peerings here. First your route<br>
> passes this peering:<br>
> AS8075 <-> AS20940<br>
> then it passes other peering:<br>
> AS4290006033 <-> AS4290006002<br>
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> Then it is an expected behaviour. Because the ASN is prepended when<br>
> route is exported over eBGP session. And the local ASN is prepended.<br>
> So you see that when you receive the route over the first peering, it<br>
> is prepended with AS8075. Then it goes over the second peering, where<br>
> it is prepended with AS4290006033.<br>
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Yes, that is true. I would add that one is not supposed to have different<br>
local ASNs for different BGP instances that form coherent BGP router,<br>
unless it is configured as BGP confederation or manually patched by<br>
filters.<br>
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-- <br>
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo<br>
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Ondrej 'Santiago' Zajicek (email: <a href="mailto:santiago@crfreenet.org" target="_blank">
santiago@crfreenet.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:santiago@crfreenet.org" target="_blank">santiago@crfreenet.org</a>>)<br>
"To err is human -- to blame it on a computer is even more so."<br>
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