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    <p>Hi, <br>
      <br>
      unfortunately issues in our GitLab repo are not publicly visible
      due to inability of GitLab to have them just read only for quest
      users. Since we rely on them a lot for all sorts of things during
      development and planning we have them tightly managed. So letting
      people/bots open and comment issues would be a problem...<br>
      <br>
      If you need a handle for later to ask about, it is issue
      `labs/bird#416`.<br>
      <br>
      This is something we talked about and would like to fix in the
      future.<br>
      If anybody has a suggestion how to have issues public and
      read-only in self-hosted GitLab, we are very much open to hearing
      them))<br>
      <br>
      Happy routing,<br>
      David</p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">David Petera (he/him) | BIRD Tech Support | CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o.</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/19/26 18:59, Justin Cattle wrote:<br>
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        <div>Acutally - just wandering, is there a publicly visible
          bug/issue I can use as a reference for this ?</div>
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            Cheers,
            <div>Just</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 19 May 2026 at 17:57,
          Justin Cattle <<a href="mailto:j@ocado.com"
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          wrote:<br>
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            <div>Hi David,</div>
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            <div>Glad to have surfaced the issue in that case, and we'll
              live with the warning for now.</div>
            <div>Thanks!</div>
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                <div><br>
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                Cheers,
                <div>Just</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 19 May 2026 at
              15:37, David Petera via Bird-users <<a
                href="mailto:bird-users@network.cz" target="_blank"
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              wrote:<br>
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                <p>Hi Just,<br>
                  <br>
                  I've briefly looked into the configuration code and it
                  indeed seems like current implementation demands
                  thread group for BFD to be named 'express'...<br>
                  <br>
                  This is definitely an oversight and we will fix that
                  once we have more time on our hands.<br>
                  In the meantime having the warning is probably your
                  best option)<br>
                  <br>
                  Thanks for spotting this and happy routing!<br>
                  David</p>
                <pre cols="72">David Petera (he/him) | BIRD Tech Support | CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o.</pre>
                <div>On 5/19/26 14:21, Justin Cattle wrote:<br>
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                    <div>Hi,</div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>I've been testing migrating to bird3. 
                      I preferred to redefine the default threading
                      configs so that everything is explicit, rather
                      than implicit.  But, when I defined the ¬eress"
                      group, I got the following warning logged:</div>
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                      <div><font face="monospace"><WARN> Symbol
                          'express' overrides existing keyword</font></div>
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                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Rather than create create needless log lines, I
                      though I would fix that by creating my own custom
                      thread group instead, and use that for BFD.</div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>I created:</div>
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                      <div><font face="monospace">thread group
                          responsive {</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> threads 1;</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> max latency 10 ms;</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> min time 1 ms;</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> max time 10 ms;</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> wakeup time 60 s;</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace">}</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"><br>
                        </font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace">protocol bfd {</font></div>
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                      <div><font face="monospace"><br>
                        </font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> thread group
                          responsive;</font></div>
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                      <div><font face="monospace"><br>
                        </font></div>
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                      <div><font face="monospace"><br>
                        </font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> interface "net0" {</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> interval 1000 ms;</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> multiplier 4;</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> };</font></div>
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                      <div><font face="monospace"><br>
                        </font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> interface "net1" {</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> interval 1000 ms;</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> multiplier 4;</font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace"> };</font></div>
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                      <div><font face="monospace"><br>
                        </font></div>
                      <div><font face="monospace">}</font></div>
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                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>However, the config validation then throws the
                      following error:</div>
                    <div><br>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border-width:medium;border-style:none;border-color:currentcolor;padding:0px">
                      <div><font face="monospace"><FATAL> Express
                          thread group not configured and "express" not
                          found</font></div>
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                    <div><font face="monospace"><br>
                      </font></div>
                    <div>Is this a bug, or something I'm doing wrong ?</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Thanks!</div>
                    <div><br>
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                        Cheers,
                        <div>Just</div>
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