Have you looked into the logs? There should be written why these processes are also down. Or you should somewhere collect their status to see whether they ended correctly or failed somehow.
Maria
yeah, i had looked into the logs but I diddn't see anything strange, here is the last part of the logs, i'm using the command "log filetolog.log all;"
all the log is brusquely interruptet, and i don't know why.
and after this...do you know if there is in bird some check in the interface if it is already on? so if i disable the interface beetween the host could i reach the result that i want?