On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 18:38 Ondrej Zajicek <santiago@crfreenet.org> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 12:51:09PM +0200, Mantas Mikulėnas via Bird-users wrote:
> From: Mantas Mikulėnas <grawity@gmail.com>
>
> For an ordinary E1 or E2 route exported by another Bird2 router in the
> same area, it was consistently choosing a 10000+ metric path through
> another area, despite having a direct 10-metric path to the origin in
> the same backbone area.
>
> It seems that this was because the rule 16.2 metric comparison was
> backwards and always chose highest metric.

Hi

I think the original code is right. orta_pref() / epath_preferred()
does not return metric (higher -> worse), but it returns whether the
path is preferred (0/1, higher -> better). Therefore there is:

rt.c:245: r = orta_pref(new) - orta_pref(old);

but

rt.c:250: r = ((int) old->metric1) - ((int) new->metric1);



The behavior you are describing:

> it was consistently choosing a 10000+ metric path through another area,
> despite having a direct 10-metric path to the origin in the same backbone
> area.

It seems to me that it is in fact a peculiar behavior specified by
RFC 2328 16.4.1:

>    When multiple intra-AS paths are available to
>    ASBRs/forwarding addresses, the following rules indicate
>    which paths are preferred. These rules apply when the same
>    ASBR is reachable through multiple areas, or when trying to
>    decide which of several AS-external-LSAs should be
>    preferred.
>
>    o   Intra-area paths using non-backbone areas are always the
>        most preferred.
>
>    o   The other paths, intra-area backbone paths and inter-
>        area paths, are of equal preference.



That is surprising to say the least... But I guess that is the problem then – I'd gone through the RFC to figure out why that was happening, but must have misunderstood this part.

Doesn't it defeat the point of areas (and metrics for that matter), when a distant area happens to have 2+ slow links to the backbone?... (One of the ASBRs exporting this route happens to be an ABR for the separate area – is that something to be avoided?)



> (which only  affected Bird, not any other OSPFv2 implementation I have
> here).

Not sure why other implmenetations do not have the same behavior, perhaps
they are RFC 1583 and not RFC 2328 OSPF versions, or they are configured
with RFC1583Compatibility enabled?

I don't remember for sure if they don't – it was 2020 when I did most of the experiments (this is the second time I'm trying to figure it out). RouterOS 7.x doesn't seem to have such an option, but it being a relatively new implementation I can only guess it follows the updated RFC.


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