On 4/14/21 11:22 AM, Justin Cattle wrote:

Hi Jakub,

Thanks for working on this.

My pleasure. After seeing how community has downstream packaging covered (❤) and hitting some annoyances with OBS I decided I'm only going to use OBS for SUSE builds only and use respective community systems for each distro so the launchpad will continue to be official upstream repo for Ubuntu for the time being.

You are correct about that issue with init-system-helpers , I had completely forgotten about it.

We are running bird2 primarily on bionic, and I created a backport of init-system-helpers 1.56+nmu1~ubuntu18.04.1 and placed it in one of our internal repos to work around the for our use cases.

I was not sure why init-system-helpers (>= 1.56~) was specified at the time, but I suspected it may have been because of the build system it was built on.

Actually, it looks like it has been officially place in bionic backport snow too: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-backports/init-system-helpers

Oh, I see! I checked history and this versioned requirement was added as part of "Bump the dephelper compatibilty level to 12" in Debian package which is a change specific to latest debian release. It's quite likely that this specific version isn't in fact required so I removed the (>= 1.56~) part - it's always worth a try with default available system init-system-helpers. I see overly strict requires like this often when doing cross-distro packaging. Sometimes they are introduced to dodge specific bug but older version might still work.

In fact the bird service worked on all my Ubuntu VMs with Xenial being special by bird service not enabled by default but it could be started normally.

I suggest we try with relaxed init-system-helpers and see if it produces some issues, I didn't hit any in my light testing.

So, in summary, the ppa was not completely valid beforehand for bionic at least :)

I think it would be better to include all deps in the PPA, so relevant versions of init-system-helpers too. Most production systems won't include the backports repo anyway.

If we find issues with using any init-system-helpers, I can backport specific version into PPA but it's a system lib that affects other packages - it's better not to touch it at all if possible. Last resort.

The other option is to try and work out if the dependency init-system-helpers (>= 1.56~) is valid, or just a build system signature artifact of some kind.

Correct :)

Seeing how broken current repo is, I wasn't affraid to update it with my current 2.0.8 packages including bionic ones so please go ahead, test and report any issues.

https://launchpad.net/~cz.nic-labs/+archive/ubuntu/bird/

I'm going to send 2.0.8 packaging update including link to the updated launchpad later today or tomorrow so extra points for you if you test it and let me know before that ;)

Cheers,
Just

Cheers,
Jakub