Turris Omnia - campaign ends soon
Hi BIRD users! I hope you will forgive me one e-mail regarding our other project. As you might know, our company (CZ.NIC) is currently developing not just BIRD, but we are also working on an open source (SW and HW) SOHO router called Turris Omnia. To support our development we launched an IndieGoGo campaign. The campaign will end on Monday, so if you want to buy a great open source router that works very well with BIRD, please check this URL - https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-r... Kind regards and good luck in 2016! Ondrej
Hi Ondřej, is there an estimate of routing capacity, i.e. octets and packets per second it will be able to route between the SFP and gigabit ports? Cheers Michal On Friday 08 of January 2016 17:52:31 Ondrej Filip wrote:
Hi BIRD users! I hope you will forgive me one e-mail regarding our other project. As you might know, our company (CZ.NIC) is currently developing not just BIRD, but we are also working on an open source (SW and HW) SOHO router called Turris Omnia. To support our development we launched an IndieGoGo campaign. The campaign will end on Monday, so if you want to buy a great open source router that works very well with BIRD, please check this URL - https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-r outer/x/12683243#/
Kind regards and good luck in 2016!
Ondrej
Hi Ondrej, On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 17:52:31 +0100, Ondrej Filip wrote:
Hi BIRD users! [...]
while we have the Q&A round: My company might consider reselling this: 1) Is that okay with you / legal? 2) Will the update mechanism allow adding extra reposistories, like with apt, so that we can add our own tools? 3) Because I was quite frustrated on a late cheap switch buy (that thing does not even know, whether the SFP module is plugged in, until the optical link is up!): Does the SFP slot sllow the full diagnostic stuff? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_form-factor_pluggable_transceiver#Digita...
Kind regards and good luck in 2016!
Ondrej
Cheers Christian -- www.cosmokey.com
On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 21:32:33 +0100, Christian Tacke wrote: [...]
2) Will the update mechanism allow adding extra reposistories, like with apt, so that we can add our own tools? [...]
Thinking about it: Would it be possible to just run plain Debian on it? Like on the Olinuxinos. Cheers Christian -- www.cosmokey.com
Hi Christian! On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Christian Tacke <Christian.Tacke+bird.network.cz@cosmokey.com> wrote:
Hi Ondrej,
On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 17:52:31 +0100, Ondrej Filip wrote:
Hi BIRD users! [...]
while we have the Q&A round:
3) Because I was quite frustrated on a late cheap switch buy (that thing does not even know, whether the SFP module is plugged in, until the optical link is up!): Does the SFP slot sllow the full diagnostic stuff?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_form-factor_pluggable_transceiver#Digita...
Theoretically yes: The I2C lines from the SFP cage are connected to the main CPU and the Linux I2C interface is going to be accessible from user space. By now we have tested only reading from EEPROM in a SFP module but not the DDM part. I am adding this to my to-do list. Thanks for bringing this up! And we - or anybody interested - might port or create some tool for reading and interpreting DDM data. It should be quite simple to do. And regarding Debian question from the another mail: Yes, I am actually running Debian on my prototype board. I simply created debootstrap image and put it to the eMMC. The only difference is a custom kernel with dozen patches (we are going to send them to upstream, but is might take some time to get them merged) and swconfig tool from OpenWRT. Tomas
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:54 PM, <tomas.hlavacek@nic.cz> wrote:
Hi Christian!
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Christian Tacke < Christian.Tacke+bird.network.cz@cosmokey.com> wrote:
Hi Ondrej,
On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 17:52:31 +0100, Ondrej Filip wrote:
Hi BIRD users!
[...]
while we have the Q&A round:
3) Because I was quite frustrated on a late cheap switch buy (that thing does not even know, whether the SFP module is plugged in, until the optical link is up!): Does the SFP slot sllow the full diagnostic stuff?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_form-factor_pluggable_transceiver#Digita...
Theoretically yes: The I2C lines from the SFP cage are connected to the main CPU and the Linux I2C interface is going to be accessible from user space. By now we have tested only reading from EEPROM in a SFP module but not the DDM part. I am adding this to my to-do list. Thanks for bringing this up! And we - or anybody interested - might port or create some tool for reading and interpreting DDM data. It should be quite simple to do.
And regarding Debian question from the another mail: Yes, I am actually running Debian on my prototype board. I simply created debootstrap image and put it to the eMMC. The only difference is a custom kernel with dozen patches (we are going to send them to upstream, but is might take some time to get them merged) and swconfig tool from OpenWRT.
Tomas
I really like the responsive nature of the team. Is there a mailing list just for the router project that we should join to keep up? -- ~ Andrew "lathama" Latham lathama@gmail.com http://lathama.net ~
On 8.1.2016 22:27, Andrew Latham wrote:
I really like the responsive nature of the team. Is there a mailing list just for the router project that we should join to keep up?
Hi! You can either discuss directly on IndieGoGo https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-r... or there is a web based discussion forum - https://discourse.labs.nic.cz/c/turris-omnia Ondrej
Theoretically yes: The I2C lines from the SFP cage are connected to the main CPU and the Linux I2C interface is going to be accessible from user space. By now we have tested only reading from EEPROM in a SFP module but not the >DDM part. I am adding this to my to-do list. Thanks for bringing this up! And we - or anybody interested - might port or create some tool for reading and interpreting DDM data. It should be quite simple to do.
Here is code printing DDM data as human readable: EEPROM Section 0xA2, starting offset is 0x60 unsigned int temp1=0; // 0x60 unsigned int temp2=0; // 0x61 unsigned int txbias1=0; // 0x62 unsigned int txbias2=0; // 0x63 unsigned int txpwr1=0; // 0x64 unsigned int txpwr2=0; // 0x65 unsigned int rxpwr1=0; // 0x65 unsigned int rxpwr2=0; // 0x66 printf("Temperature = %i.%u C\n",temp1,temp2*1000/256); printf("TX Bias = %i.%i mA\n",txbias1 >> 1,(((txbias1 && 0xFE)*256)+txbias2)*1000/512); printf("TX Power = %.4f dBm\n",log10((float)(txpwr1*256+txpwr2)*(float)0.0001)*10); printf("RX Power = %.4f dBm\n",log10((float)(rxpwr1*256+rxpwr2)*(float)0.0001)*10); Rob
Anno domini 2016 tomas.hlavacek@nic.cz scripsit: Hi Tomas,
And regarding Debian question from the another mail: Yes, I am actually running Debian on my prototype board. I simply created debootstrap image and put it to the eMMC. The only difference is a custom kernel with dozen patches (we are going to send them to upstream, but is might take some time to get them merged) and swconfig tool from OpenWRT.
Are/will these patches (be) available somewhere? I'm planning to install a Debian on mine, too. :) Or maybe an APT repo with a kernel image 'n stuff? ;) It's a very cool thing what you have done and are doing there! I really much like the idea of an Open Source Router and the specs sound cool. Thank you very much for your efforts! King regards Max -- Träume nicht von Dein Leben: Lebe Deinen Traum!
On 8.1.2016 21:32, Christian Tacke wrote:
Hi Ondrej,
On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 17:52:31 +0100, Ondrej Filip wrote:
Hi BIRD users! [...]
while we have the Q&A round:
My company might consider reselling this:
1) Is that okay with you / legal?
Yes. We can discuss it privately.
2) Will the update mechanism allow adding extra reposistories, like with apt, so that we can add our own tools?
Well, the plan is to move all external apps into LXC containers which can be updated separately. But we can talk abou it. And the 3rd question was answered by Tomas, I believe. Good luck in 2016! Ondrej
3) Because I was quite frustrated on a late cheap switch buy (that thing does not even know, whether the SFP module is plugged in, until the optical link is up!): Does the SFP slot sllow the full diagnostic stuff? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_form-factor_pluggable_transceiver#Digita...
Kind regards and good luck in 2016!
Ondrej
Cheers
Christian
Hi, On Sat, Jan 09, 2016 at 00:20:07 +0100, Ondrej Filip wrote: [...]
2) Will the update mechanism allow adding extra reposistories, like with apt, so that we can add our own tools?
Well, the plan is to move all external apps into LXC containers which can be updated separately. But we can talk abou it.
Some of our stuff would fit well in an lxc container. That would work out nicely. But we also intend to augment the openvpn config with some toolings. So that would require access to that part.
And the 3rd question was answered by Tomas, I believe.
Yes, it was.
Good luck in 2016! Ondrej
Would it be possible to register for the $189 Turris Router Perk after today? Thanks Christian -- www.cosmokey.com
Hello Ondrej , On Fri, 8 Jan 2016, Ondrej Filip wrote:
Hi BIRD users! I hope you will forgive me one e-mail regarding our other project. As you might know, our company (CZ.NIC) is currently developing not just BIRD, but we are also working on an open source (SW and HW) SOHO router called Turris Omnia. To support our development we launched an IndieGoGo campaign. The campaign will end on Monday, so if you want to buy a great open source router that works very well with BIRD, please check this URL - https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-r... Kind regards and good luck in 2016! Ondrej
Another very interesting & usefull project from the team at nic.cz . In all my searches of the discussions I found no one interested in a serial console access to the device for people with oob access needs , say are a part of their design criteria for SOHO devices ? Is there or will there be plans to allow/create such oob access ? Another ? , Has anyone come forward to sell or ship from a USA company to allow for lower shipping fee's & in country (for me I'll admit) shipping options ? Tia , JimL -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | James W. Laferriere | System Techniques | Give me VMS | | Network&System Engineer | 3237 Holden Road | Give me Linux | | babydr@baby-dragons.com | Fairbanks, AK. 99709 | only on AXP | +------------------------------------------------------------------+
On 9.1.2016 01:47, James W. Laferriere wrote:
Hello Ondrej ,
On Fri, 8 Jan 2016, Ondrej Filip wrote:
Hi BIRD users! I hope you will forgive me one e-mail regarding our other project. As you might know, our company (CZ.NIC) is currently developing not just BIRD, but we are also working on an open source (SW and HW) SOHO router called Turris Omnia. To support our development we launched an IndieGoGo campaign. The campaign will end on Monday, so if you want to buy a great open source router that works very well with BIRD, please check this URL - https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-r...
Kind regards and good luck in 2016! Ondrej
Another very interesting & usefull project from the team at nic.cz . In all my searches of the discussions I found no one interested in a serial console access to the device for people with oob access needs , say are a part of their design criteria for SOHO devices ? Is
I am not sure I understand you. Turris Omnia allows console access. (Easy with Hacker pack perk)
there or will there be plans to allow/create such oob access ? Another ? , Has anyone come forward to sell or ship from a USA company to allow for lower shipping fee's & in country (for me I'll admit) shipping options ?
I don't know about anybody. Ondrej
Tia , JimL
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Ondrej Filip <feela@network.cz> wrote:
Hi BIRD users! I hope you will forgive me one e-mail regarding our other project. As you might know, our company (CZ.NIC) is currently developing not just BIRD, but we are also working on an open source (SW and HW) SOHO router called Turris Omnia.
Hi Your project looks awsome ! Just one question : Will source-code will be available ? I love to buy it for my home, but as I'm programmer and developer I would like to have some "patches" which I already using on my home-router (Linux), but running common x86 hardware on Intel NUC. Rob
On 9.1.2016 17:08, Robert Hass wrote:
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Ondrej Filip <feela@network.cz <mailto:feela@network.cz>> wrote:
Hi BIRD users! I hope you will forgive me one e-mail regarding our other project. As you might know, our company (CZ.NIC) is currently developing not just BIRD, but we are also working on an open source (SW and HW) SOHO router called Turris Omnia.
Hi Your project looks awsome !
Just one question : Will source-code will be available ? I love to buy it for my home, but as I'm programmer and developer I would like to have some "patches" which I already using on my home-router (Linux), but running common x86 hardware on Intel NUC.
Hi! Everything we do is open source! Count on it. Ondrej
Rob
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