Hi, again. I've found something that make bird fail in situations like when a "kidled" daemon kills the processes attached to a tty. When bird goes on daemon mode (not -d flag) it doesn't close the standard file descriptors (in, out and err), so the proccess continues "attached" to the tty. When kidled calls fuser to send signals to the processes attached to the tty, bird is killed. Regards. Roberto -- Roberto Moreda Allenta Consulting UNIX, Linux & Security Services