Zajimal by me Vas nazor na nasledujici kombinaci: Heads square thru 4, right hand star, swing thru. S zadnou doplnujici napovedou. Dle meho nazoru je to kombinace nejasna a v podstate v teto forme neproveditelna.

Ahoj, takova napoveda je podle me skutecne neuplna. Ocekaval bych minimalne urceni, o kolik se ma hvezda otocit a s kym maji tanecnici provadet dalsi figuru. Mimochodem, toto tema uz jsme natukli pred rokem v konferenci square@square.cz. Zopakuji tedy to, co jsem psal tenkrat: --------- Ted je situace takova, ze koncova formace po provedeni hvezdy zavisi na nasledujici figure (a je tudiz na callerovi, aby si ohlidal korektnost a jednoznacnost napovedy). Klasickym prikladem budiz cast notoricky znameho singing-calloveho modulu: Heads Square Thru Four Make a Right-Hand Star with the Outsides Heads Star Left in the Middle All Right & Left Thru ... Po provedeni prvni hvezdy (za pravou ruku, vsichni) zustanou puvodni Heads zady ke stredu hvezdy, zatimco puvodni Sides se otoci celem ke stredu hvezdy (a zustanou, jak zacinali). Po provedeni druhe hvezdy (za levou ruku, uprostred) zustanou vsichni, kdo ji provadeli (puvodni Heads) zady k jejimu stredu. Ve Square Dance je (pro nekoho bohuzel, pro nekoho bohudik) situaci, ktere nelze presne popsat matematickymi pravidly, docela hodne - vyplyva to mimo jine i z jeho vyvoje az do doby, kdy byly definice figur standardizovany. (Mimochodem, puvodne treba Dosado a Dosido byly dve zcela rozdilne figury :-=))) ---------

Soubezne s tim se chci zeptat, kdo z Vas muze potvrdit, ze se to tak bezne pouziva v nemecku. V C konferenci na toto tema probehly dve diskuze, nikdo z ucastniku (vesmes pravidelne jezdici na zahranicni akce) nemuze potvrdit, ze by se s touto kombinaci v zahranici setkal. Najde se nekdo mezi Vami?

Posledni dotaz - v jake formaci dle Vaseho nazoru konci hvezdy?

Miloslav Maly

Trochu jsem se hrabal ve svych starych "vypiscich z Internetu" a nasel jsem treba kombinaci Heads Square Thru Four - Right-Hand Star Half Way - Veer Left, kterou jsem si tenkrat poznamenal mimo jine i proto, ze se na ni spousta americkych calleru tvarila jako na neco zcela normalniho. Ted jsem navic zjistil, ze je tato kombinace uvedena v nove definici CALLERLABu (ktera jiz byla schvalena, ale zatim nebyla publikovana) jako priklad pouziti. Krome toho nova definice vyslovne mluvi o tom, ze je koncova pozice po samotnem otoceni hvezdy urcena nasledujici figurou: --------- 10. Left-Hand Star / Right-Hand Star Starting formations: Facing Couples, Squared Set, Infacing Circle Of 8 Command examples: Men Center Right Hand Star; Back By The Left Heads Square Thru; Make A Right Hand Star With The Sides; Heads Center Left Hand Star; Back To The Same Girl With A Right and Left Thru Heads Square Thru; Right Hand Star; Heads Star Left Inside To The Same Folks; Right and Left Thru Heads Star Thru; Square Thru 3; Left Hand Star; Head Ladies Lead, Flutterwheel 4 Ladies Center, Right Hand Star Heads Square Thru; Right Hand Star; Heads to Center star across the square Heads Square Thru; Right Hand Star 1/2 Way; Veer Left Dance action: The designated dancers form a star by stepping forward if necessary and placing the appropriate hand in the center of the formation. Forming the star may require a dancer to individually turn in place up to 3/8 of a turn. Dancers turn the star by walking forward in a circle around the center of the star. The distance traveled may be specified in fractions of a star full around, or until some condition is met (e.g., Men Center Left Hand Star, Pick Up Your Partner with and Arm Around, Star Promenade). Ending formation: Star plus an adjustment. Each dancer knows his position on the floor by how far the star turned. Starting from Facing Couples: Dancers must adjust their facing direction as appropriate for the next call. When dancers star across the center of the set (e.g., Centers Star 1/2 Way starting in a Double Pass Thru formation), they usually end in an Eight Chain Thru formation. When dancers star on each side of the set, the new ends usually finish as a couple facing in. Starting from Squared Set: When the 4 boys (or girls) Star the facing direction at the end is determined by the next call (e.g., Swing, Star Promenade, Turn Your Partner By The Left, Star Thru, Do Sa Do, etc.). Timing: 1/2: 4, 3/4: 6, Full: 8 Styling: Palm star (see Styling section). Men's outside arms in natural dance position, women's outside hands work skirt. Some areas dance any stars containing men with a Pack-saddle Star (see Styling section). Comments: The stars described above are 4-dancer stars. Stars of 3 or more dancers are also proper, as long as the caller's instructions to the dancers are understood. Some callers use 2-dancer stars in place of Arm Turns, accomplishing the hands up styling necessary in Ocean Waves, and having one less call to teach. While this is acceptable in a teaching situation, and may be a logical way to understand stars (i.e., 2 or more dancers), 2-dancer stars are not commonly encountered at dances. --------- Osobne jsem pred nejakou dobou dosel k zaveru, ze zejmena u figur pochazejicich z tradicniho tancovani (hvezdy, zatocky) bude zrejme stale velkou roli hrat "zvykove pravo", coz ve svem dusledku ponekud blokuje moznost zcela presneho definovani takovych figur. Vzhledem k tomu, ze takove kombinace jsou bezne i u nas, povazuji za nejlepsi cestu smirit se s timto stavem. Hezky vikend, Tomas "Doug" Machalik

Zajimal by me Vas nazor na nasledujici kombinaci: Heads square thru 4, right hand star, swing thru. S zadnou doplnujici napovedou. Dle meho nazoru je to kombinace nejasna a v podstate v teto forme neproveditelna.

Ahoj Mílo. Nevim, jestli je to spravne dle definice, ale ja ucim tanecniky, ze neni-li receno jinak, vraci se na misto, odkud hvezdu zacali. Pak by tebou dana kombinace byla pro me normalne resitelna. Franta