Hello, today i noticed huge difference between our 2 identical bgp ubuntu 10.04 LTS with burf 1.2.3 (ppa) x64 routers. (hardware DL380G6 12G ram X5560 @ 2.80GHz) systems are still idle in having no ip traffic yet, except for the bgp sessions and "random" other traffic. root@snxbgpprd01:~# time netstat -rn |wc -l 318259 real 0m1.296s user 0m0.950s sys 0m0.390s root@snxbgpprd02:~# time netstat -rn |wc -l 318263 real 0m9.079s user 0m6.720s sys 0m2.500s with linux ip route: root@snxbgpprd01:~# time ip route show |wc -l 318267 real 0m1.152s user 0m0.490s sys 0m1.040s root@snxbgpprd02:~# time netstat -rn |wc -l 318263 real 0m9.079s user 0m6.720s sys 0m2.500s and with bird: root@snxbgpprd01:~# time echo "show route" | birdc | wc -l 1229972 real 0m3.315s user 0m0.510s sys 0m0.230s root@snxbgpprd02:~# time echo "show route" | birdc | wc -l 896174 real 0m20.018s user 0m2.050s sys 0m0.920s so asking the route table takes at least 7 times more on the second rtr, while being exact the same hardware, OS and software. only other bird config due to IX connections. with "debug protocols { states, routes , filters};" i didn't notice anything special, and both routers seem more or less equal. with these times, i noticed that it seems that the cpu usage of bird rizes to 100% as i do a netstat -rn on the linux prompt. It looks like a route table access contention At one time, this morning, the netstat command exceded the 3 minutes, and i finally killed it. Has anyone same experinces, or knows perhaps what is going on? i want to start with oprofile to have a more closer look what is going on, and where that cpu time is consumed. Regards, -- Arjan Filius mailto:iafilius@xs4all.nl