Hello, I want to use bird to mutually propagate routes throughout several sites connected with vpn gateways, probably with ospf. e.g. site A net(s) <-> site A vpn gateway <-> vpn 'concentrator' <-> site B vpn gateway <-> hosts site B net(s), etc.. I couldn't find many posts about the best strategy to use, and the ones did find are many years old, but it seems to boil down to these options: • use a script to migrate xfrm route table (220) to a bird-readable table • use static routes inside bird • use vti instead of xfrm My questions: 1) Is it sill the case that bird cannot read directly from the xfrm table? (I tried this with a pipe config but nothing gets imported) 2) What is the strategy that most of you are using now? (as opposed to many years ago) Thanks! Brian