I've found two issues a few weeks, when we started to use bird as routing daemon on a network on >15 routers talking OSPF and RIP: - segmentation faults using OSPF: try to modify the MTU of an interface used on the OSPF protocol :-). This issue is solved apliying the trivial patch that I sent a few weeks ago to the list. No comments by developers side... but "it works for me (TM)". - in daemon mode, bird doesn't detach from ttys... so it can cause problems when closing ttys (this issue is also commented in other email without feedback). I have another trivial patch that works for me. - in a few situations bird began to exchange a *lot* of OSPF traffic with some peers (a permanent loop of request-update-ack) saturating links between two router. In this situation the only solution was to restart bird. No solution by now. It is very frustrating try to achieve redundancy and find out that two routers are sucking all the bandwith exchanging OSPF traffic :-/ I suppose that summertime is bad for active developing, so I hope that with the return of holidays bird will get a new and better release :-) Greets Rober On Aug/13/2005, Martin Kraus wrote:

hi, i've got stability issues with bird. i talked with feela, he told me there are some problems with stability, that bird crashes once in about 3 weeks, however, tonight it crashed on me about 5 times and finaly tore down my central router, which, needless to say, really #@&!!@??#@!!*&# annoyed me:)

is anyone using successfully bird in production environment at least on a small network (what i need for now is really just two routers running bird, two routers running gated and couple of other routers throught static routing) or are these stability issues affecting everyone? what i remember is that bird crashed hard when using show route filter { if net ~ .... etc. through birdc, than it crashed when adding a static route and configure/restart static1. i also noticed, that the ospf module just stops sending out helo packets from time to time, and only thing that helps is a complete restart of bird.

i didn't have time to simulate the errors and see when and what exactly does it do. i'm also no programmer, i saw debugger once 5 years ago so i'm not much help there either. i would just like to know if there is a way to get bird working reliably to some extent or if it's still just beta for fun only.

have a nice weekend martin kraus

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