hi, i've got stability issues with bird. i talked with feela, he told me there are some problems with stability, that bird crashes once in about 3 weeks, however, tonight it crashed on me about 5 times and finaly tore down my central router, which, needless to say, really #@&!!@??#@!!*&# annoyed me:) is anyone using successfully bird in production environment at least on a small network (what i need for now is really just two routers running bird, two routers running gated and couple of other routers throught static routing) or are these stability issues affecting everyone? what i remember is that bird crashed hard when using show route filter { if net ~ .... etc. through birdc, than it crashed when adding a static route and configure/restart static1. i also noticed, that the ospf module just stops sending out helo packets from time to time, and only thing that helps is a complete restart of bird. i didn't have time to simulate the errors and see when and what exactly does it do. i'm also no programmer, i saw debugger once 5 years ago so i'm not much help there either. i would just like to know if there is a way to get bird working reliably to some extent or if it's still just beta for fun only. have a nice weekend martin kraus