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New user, initial question
by Michael Renzmann 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

Hi all. I just want to introduce myself as a new bird user here on the list and have an initial question: how stable is the RIP module of the current bird release? I would like to use bird as routing daemon within one product we are developing. We used zebra since a few months, but there have been some problems with it that couln't be solved, and as the time is getting shorter and shorter (we have to start tests soon) I started looking around for another routing daemon. So I came around to bird (via freshmeat) and was impressed by the good documentation (at least the few parts I have read by now are good... :)) ) and would like to start working with the bird now. The product I work on is a router for wireless networks running under Linux in an (slightly) embedded system. We use RIPv2 for the beginning, but would also like to enable them to use OSPF in one of the next steps. Current protocol is IPv4, IPv6 will also come in a later step. Is there anything I should pay attention for when using the RIPv2 part of bird? Any pitfalls, stability problems, ...? Is there a mailing list archive available? Bye, Mike

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Large scale deployment ?
by Mario Lorenz 14 Dec '00

14 Dec '00

Hi there, I would like to ask on whether bird is actually used in medium-sized production environments and what the experiences are, with regard to stability and possibilities for debugging, especially on the OSPF and BGP parts. Since I am only learning said more complex routing protocols (until now everything that needed to be done could be handled with static routing or RIP) I wonder if BIRD is a good platform to use. Compared to eg. Cisco or Zebra, the possibilities of getting BGP status information (paths etc) seem to be rather limited. Anyone running BGP on a network consisting of more than just a single box, and running full internet tables ? How How does BIRD do there, since route dampening is on the todo, and the books describe it as a very important feature for an internet grade BGP router ? OSPF I couldnt test at all, bird just crashes right after startup (probably my config file describes an invalid configuration). Again, can BIRD be recommended as a routing solution for single area OSPF networks, around 20-30 Routers ? Scaling for more areas? Interoperability with other vendors tested ? Again, the idea for me is to learn the routing protocols, on a practical example; I dont have 20 Ciscos to play with, and bird looked like a nice little daemon for that job (and also for future deployment, if it works..) Or any other suggestions ? (Replies to this question please in private, as I dont want to start any flame wars here) Regards, Mario -- Mario Lorenz Internet: <ml(a)vdazone.org> Ham Radio: DL5MLO@OK0PKL.#BOH.CZE.EU Trust the computer industry to shorten "Year 2000" to Y2K. It was this kind of thinking that caused the problem in the first place.

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Anybody knows where is timer.h
by Zheng Yuan {ZYUAN1} 14 Dec '00

14 Dec '00

Hi guys i am a newbie of this group. I cant find the timer.h on my sgi workstation, but i do have it on my Linux. Anybody has any idea. BTW, r we using the krt_scan.h krt_set.c and all the files starting with krt? Thanx a lot!

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RIP and BIRD
by Ian Catchpole 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

Hi, I am attempting to setup RIP using BIRD. How do I emulate the use of source and trusted gateways that I used with our existing "gated" routing daemon? I've have tried several different ways of specifying interface addresses, but all get rejected due to invalid syntax. Ian Catchpole

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bird 1.0.4 still not working
by Andreas Jellinghaus 16 Sep '00

16 Sep '00

Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: Initializing Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: device1: Initializing Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: bgp1: Initializing Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: Starting Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: State changed to feed Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: device1: Starting Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: device1: Scanning interfaces Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: device1: State changed to feed Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: bgp1: Starting Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: bgp1: State changed to start Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: Connected to table master Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: State changed to up Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: device1: State changed to up Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: bgp1: Waiting for 3ffe:401:0:1::12:1 to become my neighbor Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: Scanning routing table Sep 13 12:05:37 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: Pruning table master Sep 13 12:05:47 fwi-gaia bird: device1: Scanning interfaces Sep 13 12:05:47 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: Scanning routing table Sep 13 12:05:47 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: Pruning table master Sep 13 12:05:57 fwi-gaia bird: device1: Scanning interfaces Sep 13 12:05:57 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: Scanning routing table Sep 13 12:05:57 fwi-gaia bird: kernel1: Pruning table master an that´s it. no connect to the remote host. zebra works, so i guess the remote machine is ok. the last time we debugged this, it was something like the packet got thrown away without being processed ? and hope that bug gets fixed ? regards, andreas

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Re: FAQ-able questions for BIRD
by Ondrej Fila Filip 05 Sep '00

05 Sep '00

On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, David A. Ranch wrote: > > Hello Ondrej, Hi David, > I just saw your Freshmeat announcement for BIRD and since > I work for Juniper Networks, I had a few questions that > should probably go into a FAQ: The best way is start reading our UsersGuide. It's explained in 1st chapter. > #1: Why did you develop BIRD when we have both Gated and Zebra? > What differentiates it? Gated is not free and Zebra has limited capability especially in filtering and configuration. BIRD is also more portable. > #2: How is BIRD configured? > Gated is its own animal > Zebra emulates Cisco IOS BIRD has powerful configuration language. > #3: Do you have any plans to support Multicast protocols > like DVMRP, PIM, MSDP, MBGP, etc? Yes. > #4: Are your protocols modular? Meaning if I'm running > OSPF and BGP, the RIP and IPv6 modules AREN'T loaded? You may exclude or include any protocol during compilation. > Anyway.. thanks for your time. Kind regards F. > > --David > > .----------------------------------------------------------------------------. > | David A. Ranch - Linux/Networking/PC hardware dranch(a)trinnet.net | > !---- ----! > `----- For more detailed info, see http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch -----' > -- Ondrej Feela Filip

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Version 1.0.4
by Ondrej Feela Filip 04 Sep '00

04 Sep '00

Many serious OSPF bug fixes. I hope now, I can develop new features. Yours truly Feela -- Ondrej Feela Filip

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Version 1.0.3
by Ondrej Feela Filip 03 Sep '00

03 Sep '00

Version 1.0.3 released, OSPF now works better on NBMA networks. Some configuration tags added. Feela -- Ondrej Feela Filip

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Re: bird.init
by Ondrej Fila Filip 25 Aug '00

25 Aug '00

On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Craig Bourne wrote: > You may wish to evaluate the folowing change to your bird.init script: > > on line 19 you have: > > if [ ${NETWORKING} = "no" ] > > which leads to the error message: > > [: =: unary operator expected > > You might instead youse the following and avoid this error: > if [ "${NETWORKING}" = "no" ] > > Thank you! It's fixed, new RPMs are available on ftp://bird.network.cz/pub/bird/redhat F. > > > > > Best Regards, > Craig Bourne > > -- Ondrej Feela Filip

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Bird-1.0.2 released
by Ondrej Feela Filip 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

It contains some bug fixes in OSPF, nothing important changed. Kind regards Filip -- Ondrej Feela Filip

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